The dark within humanity can now fester, still and stagnant, leaking analogies of pus, rot, and corruption. Because of this, the Tomb becomes a holy part of the Way of the White. Basicaly the Age of Dark is an Age without the Flame and some Hollows aim to be strong enough to sustain it, following Gwyns image. Furthermore, the nature of crystals here would suggest the nature of him birthing modern sorcery as soul-power made "solid", the crystal apex of the soul spells being particularly piercing and tangible. There is so much out there, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. So without that, humans could live as humans. As how these obsessions relate I cannot say, and much of these ideas I have ultimately been inspired from details given in other Souls games, making it a complicated theory to present in these bounds. I am decently inclined to believe they have ancient origins from their growth throughout, and towards the bottom, of the great hollow. Someone who wont be easily defeated, so an Age of Fire couldnt happen again. The untended graves isn't a "age of dark" thing. As such, I do not believe accepting this discounts Gwyn's race creating lightning magic by being inspired or otherwise observing the essence of it in natural form within the mushrooms. The humanoid ones come in variable sizes, and incorporate the primeval men, which I claim to be the hollow-like humanoids rising out of nothing aimlessly in the intro, and what is ultimately kin to the primeval man but larger and perhaps generally less intelligent, giant men (Giants). A land of gray crags, Archtrees and Everlasting Dragons. Kaathe rises from the Abyss to put the Chosen Undead there, suggesting that it is not on the bottom of the world. Men can contain the darkness within them, unnatural as it all is. The characters keep referring to it as "the age of men", which resonates a lot with this idea. It leads to an impurity of the dark not even seen previously, but its power is still largely contained, becoming a more long-term issue. Even if their blood and natural power of body runs thin, their humanity keeps them "alive." DARK SOULS III sees a lone adventurer wandering through a fallen and deserted kingdom now populated only by a variety of evils, including shambling undead, dark knights, and massive beasts. It is from this Light Soul that we have all the modern forms of soul-power, all significant, transferable condensations of this incredible energy, and the root energy used in all magic-proper afterwards. The Age of Ancients: Before the First Flame. It's actually in the past of our Firelink Shrine. I do not regard this "blood-fire" as being a form of soul power, although one can claim that it is and is related to one's true essence, and perhaps that is what is drawn from in the pyromancy the Power Within. The ancestor claimed the Dark Soul and waited for Fire to subside. Not talking shit about wise old Gough. However! Then from the dark, they came, and found the Souls of Lords within the flame. I claim the most important takeaways from this is blood is the essence of most of what can be considered a lifeform in the Dark Souls universe, and that this is what carries the little piece of the First Flame that animates the lifeform. Dark Souls is a spiritual successor to Demon’s, not a sequel. Initially, they are one, which I claim to be an ordinary Lord Soul, perhaps the only one left. I do not subscribe to the idea the everlasting dragons are dead, either. The Primordial Serpents, whose role certainly had some play before all this, start to have some clear agenda. I have a question does age of fire limit abyss or something? Things always come full circle here. The Dark Soul, although paling in comparison to what the Lord Souls and the Light Soul has given the rest of the blood-life, has an undying, heretical existence in the universe. Add a post. Edit:It had never occurred to me that Seath's betraying element was to reveal his kin's lack of lightning defense in their exterior. Lets call these pieces the Light Soul and the Dark Soul. I believe that it innately does not possess the properties that we have come to regard "soul" in Dark Souls though, namely that it can be transferred, broken down, fuse/build up, or used for a variety of purposes by means of its consumption or transposition by the sophisticated means later used by the gods. It seeks to regain its "power", but more accurately described is that it wishes to make itself whole, in a way you might imagine positive and negative particulates want to rejoin. With the strength of Lords, they challenged the dragons. I know people say that Untended Graves is how an age of dark would look like, but I'm not convinced. They were sparks of raw power that could be used, among other things for magic. One of those being the age of dark. Ingward notes the existence of at least one undead gaining the Lordvessel before, and odds are they eventually met their demise due to not being strong enough. Dark Souls doesn't have a bad character creator, but just looking at a Reddit thread of Code Vein creations shows how dynamic it is. Okay, so, one of the main aspects of the lore surrounding the Dark Souls universe is that its very "theatrical", in the sense that many important aspects about the story are described in a very eloquent and poethical way, and usually don't go into factual details about some events. This is the water found in Ash Lake, and it is from this water, which we do not claim has a bottom necessarily, that the Archtrees rise up from. Also, I believe the smaller ones breed faster and die faster. Parts of its construction suggest Izalith architecture, and it being built inside an archtree. Dark Souls is the new action role-playing game from the developers who brought you Demon’s Souls, FromSoftware. The game feels very responsive, and renovates (from DeS) or otherwise innovates alot of the core mechanics that make the sequels great games. Dark Souls 3 mentions a white flame existing in the Sage Coal, the Sages being clear students of Seaths crystal magic. The Dark Souls series is a self-contained kind of difficulty that requires self-contained practice, even for the most veteran of gamers, and those of … But to go along with what I have already written, I have two flavors of how to explain some things about Seath. Regarding Hollows in the Age of Grey: before the First Flame, they were probably wandering aimlessly and mindlessly, but keep in mind that there probably were years between the retrieval of souls and Gwyn's War on Dragons: Gwyn and the other Lords had to unite and equip an untold number of people before they could wage war, and we don't know how long this war lasted. The Witch of Izalith and her daughters, by my explanation just shamans without much power initially, came from some ancient civilization and happened upon a Lord Soul. Is there something more to that lore? I love this series particularly because of the lore. The reproduction in particular is certain, for the Witch of Izalith had daughters. Humans are Hollows. In truth, the Age of Dark would be very similar to the Age of Grey, albeit there would be some differences. I think one of the greatest things about dark souls is the lack of explanation. If not, it will prove to be cruel, overly-punishing, hopeless torment. But I believe that the twinkling energy ultimately gave the everlasting dragons their undying nature, and Seath found this Primordial Crystal thing, which had the ability to crystallize soul-energy or perhaps that crystals are indeed simplistic solidified souls and that the Primordial Crystal allowed some form of them to be indestructable, like an auxilliary energy source to "power" durability. I cannot claim that as to whether or not they could even move before the First Flame came into being, as whether they could or not fits into the rest of my theory rather equally. Crafting this theory was like making a macaroni-art plate, my mom is really proud and technically its art, but its as valuable only in so much as you the reader enjoys it. The fact that something so simple can affect things significantly I think shows what a layered and interesting introduction to a universe it is. About Community. Press J to jump to the feed. His realm of death, the Tomb of the Giants, becomes the first Abyss. The Dark Soul, being alive, has want. The dark is ultimately staved off by primordial fire, which is the nature of the seal. The breakthroughs in development correspond with realization of a Lord Soul. The Witch became Lord, and she and her daughters became the first humanoid magic-users, known ad hoc as flame sorcery since it manipulated or generated the primeval, I suspect largely by using the power of the Lord Soul. I think it fits into the giant humanoid skull seen in Ash Lake and parts of the later series entries to regard the blood lifeform's having intelligence somewhat inversely correlated with size, at least in a vague sense. If we accept lightning as being a part of their essence, that would suggest all proto-magic is inspired from nature, as the Witches had surely seen fire before. From this point, we now have a phenomena of humanity being disembodied from their bodies, which can cause hollowing/death of men. But the Age of Dark, proceeding from the Age of Flame, has thus Disparity baked into it. In fact, it is not even clear to what capacity he resembles them. I may adapt or refine it come the right time. But I do not believe this revelation necessarily spawned Gwyn's tribe usage of lightning magic, or that they had lightning magic before they are told such a thing. Age of Dark seems to be dark, but there's still light here and there to see, but it's dark, and like, that it? Clinging to his Age of Fire, and in dire fear of humans, and the Dark Lord who would one day be born amongst them. Its mystery allows for significant interpretation, and it would be foolish to think there is an outright "correct" way of understanding things, especially with regards to laying down hard, inflexible factoids instead of more arguable thematic intention and "lessons." It was essentially condensed energy units that could be manipulated, but I claim that they were initially much weaker than what is seen in the feats of the great war (they were just the little flames seen in Nito and the Witch's grasp) They were also uniquely eternal and had the potential to grow great in circumstances I will elaborate upon shortly. "True undead" I believe because he was actually entirely invincible from damage unlike his brethern. Among general decay and waning influence of the gods, Nito's power falters, and some men do not die. The seal of fire causes a distinct problem. on the other hand,dark soul came from the first flame,with the flame fading,the humankind will lost the abillity to rule,its just an "AGE OF SERPENTS".they just bow for you and sneer behind you for your foolishness. Humans and other creatures have yet to make an impression upon the world. Fantastic job! Were the hollows from that first cutscene literally just mindlessly wandering in the dark until the fire appeared, and then 3 seemingly random ones got the Lord Souls? 03 Jan 2019 06:36 . This lead him to discover another nature of the Dark, wherein the dregs of it will sink to the lowest depth possible, and form the core components of the world23. age of fire just comes with an another fading flame which just make undeads suffering from this endless pain again. I've always seen it as basically our age, here in the real world. One thing though; he didn't get inspiration from the mushrooms with his lightning, it was seath the scaleless who told Gwyn about the dragons weakness. I like to believe that by being blood, these beings carried within themselves some of this serene, peaceful water of Ash Lake, having it as their birthplace in the very beginning. The Everlasting Dragons are a pseudo-mineral lifeform, and therefore it is easy to make the case they are not life at all. On the outskirts of the world, he gifts the First Men the Ringed City, and his daughter Fillianore eventually freezes it in time with an illusion. The lore of Dark Souls is infamously vague. The world is also as not directly stated. Bonfires and Mistle Are the Same Bonfires are one of the core pieces of Dark Souls ' design, giving players a much-needed respite, as well as a chance to restore their healing items. But through one way or another, Gwyn, the Witch, and Nito (or at least just Gwyn) accepted the Light Soul to massively amplify their Lord Souls, turning their sparks into suns (insert big flame analogy here). Dark Souls 3. Frampt then, with less than stellar honesty, attempts to guide the undead to regain the Lord Souls and Lord Soul shards, which they must first do by gaining the Lord Vessel in Anor Londo, and then killing god-like entities that possess them. It grows in power with time, in search of what it has lost. The world is as stated. Before the first flame, how were things? The moon coming to represent the remains the first flame after life was created, it was a cool light that illuminated the above world, and it remained strongly in the memory of Seath as an obsession, and perhaps is the source of Midir's memory stated in Old Moonlight. I'd like to hear your interpretations (and facts if there's something I'm missing here), but to me personally, I always felt like the age of dark meant an age without lords, without the magic that stems from the First Flame. Okay, so, one of the main aspects of the lore surrounding the Dark Souls universe is that its very "theatrical", in the sense that many important aspects about the story are described in a very eloquent and poethical way, and usually don't go into factual details about some events. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/ernnof/truth_of_primordial_serpents_and_dragons_and/. At least one oddball possesses an agenda to prevent the natural march of time and restore and maintain the Age of Fire as long as possible. This is why the First Flame brought Disparity in the world: "before", time didn't flow, so things couldn't evolve or change. Also, the dead Fire Keeper you loot the Eyes off of, if you talk to Ludleth before you give them to her he talks about the dead one in a personal tone. " "In the Age of Ancients, the world was unformed, shrouded by fog. The Gods influence dwindles. Hot. I don’t agree. It indeed has soul-power, but is defined as the vestiges of the Lord Soul, that which should have been its outline, its border. They at this point have a civilization. Thanks! He goes to the kiln of the First Flame, which is a ritualistic site with quasi-physical placement in the universe where he can attempt a kindling of it. Men help in the battle! "After the advent of fire, the ancient lords found the three souls. The Deep is a concept inDark Souls III. My theory that the magic-generated lightning of the gods being inspired from some natural part of the mushrooms is barely supported by Dark Souls flavor texts, only in the sense that mushrooms can drop golden pine resin. Near whatever remained of the First Flame (if there was anything left), but not in it (important distinction elaborated upon in developer interview), we had these things called Lord Souls. The First Flame comes into being in an inexplicable manner analagous to the Big Bang. Seath, in harnessing this, allowed his body's soul power to slowly become crystal, which is the clear difference in appearance noted between his intro and game appearances. Gwyn splits his rightly inherited Lord Soul into pieces, giving the two largest fragments to Seath and to the yet corrupted Four Kings. meaning that he knew her when she was still alive. With hollowing gone, humans would never lose their Humanity and souls, and therefore maintain individuality… and Disparity. There are no posts in this subreddit. The Age of Fire continues, shorter and weaker than before. It can be hard to envision the Age of Dark because we have no real reference point for it, but it certainly would be dark in a literal sense: the sun and the First Flame are linked, and when the First Flame goes out so does the sun. However, they can lose their memory and power upon death in the form of "soul", and the actual soul-power part of their humanity can be degraded and used-up, which gives risk to the darkness in the essence of the sprite being unleashed and going out of control, which can give rise to horrors (more on that later). I really love that, and I love how dense and well crafted this world is, but it also means that we don't have a lot of information about some stuff. The dragons are animated by their incredible internal "twinkling" light, they are "killed" in the same way you kill a statue by breaking it. Much has happened since. " This is represented by their shard of the First Flame burning out, and disappearing from the universe. The inner darkness remains sealed by fire. Unlucky cursed ones, often put in asylums, for one reason or another they could not be satiated by Nito's global ritual. If you don't talk to the Shrine Handmaid in Firelink until after you've talked to her in Untended Graves, she seems to recognize you, but catch herself. If you like, check out my lore post on the Primordial Serpents and DLC ending as interpreted from Dark Souls 3 on the Dks3 subreddit:https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/ernnof/truth_of_primordial_serpents_and_dragons_and/. The art in crafting a unified theory and explanation of the unknown is in how encompassing, detailed, and pleasing it feels to the lost loreseeker. Anton Kokarev continues to conjure a dark and haunting world reminiscent of the game without simply copying the … Inherit the world growth of life in the Dark Soul is defined by is! 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