Reflect on your greatest successes and failures as an angler and the answer is clear. He won’t divulge their secrets so I couldn’t learn more, but these changes allow Douglas to build the new SKY G with less material, resulting in a much lighter and stronger rod than the older standard SKY. 6. Alignment dots are used on the ferrules and there is no hook keeper. When used in the top half of the rod, this creates a thin diameter tip section with excellent swing weight, but more importantly helps the rod to recover and dampen extremely quickly. Everyone here anxiously anticipated seeing what Steve Rajeff would devise to replace the superb Loomis NRX rods, which have been among our favorite rods over the years. The reel seat is a black anodized uplocking seat with a gray graphite spacer. The guides start out with two new CeRecoil stripping guides that have flexible nickel/titanium frames and a slick zirconia ceramic insert that will never separate. Reply. An oversized tiptop is used with no hook keeper. Can be personalized with up to 22 characters. To play the game at its highest level there can be no compromise and for every angler the H3 is the pinnacle of purpose, designed to master the moment and meet the demands of accuracy on a spring creek with a 3F or a tarpon flat with a 3D. Nice smoothly controlled loops and lots of feel. This is another great looking rod from Scott, finished in natural graphite gray and only lightly sanded, in typical Scott fashion, so you can still see the tape marks. If you are thinking about buying a fly rod, we suggest reading one of our Shootouts for the line size rod you want. Orvis Graphite Fly Rod 8'3" for 7 Weight Line with Tube . The NRX+ with the Mastery Saltwater taper does a much better job overall. If your favorite local shop stocks the rods you are interested in, by all means visit them, try a few rods and purchase an outfit from them. The other is the expeditor warranty policy that gets you a new rod in just a few days but can cost up to $250. It’s always great to have Skip’s perspective. The Asquith, with its softer tip offers the ultimate in power and feel, and was created with the SA Bonefish line in mind. The NRX+ has a stiffer tip, and was designed with the SA Mastery Saltwater line in mind, a line that is a half a line size heavier, (similar to the MPX freshwater lines). Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Orvis Helios 2 9’ 8wt at the best online prices at eBay! We hope you have enjoyed reading the 2020 8-weight Challenge and found it helpful! $699.99. This is a private listing and your identity will not be disclosed to anyone except the seller. Fenwick uses a solid dark gray anodized, double uplocking seat. Only thing missing is the rod sock. Proudly made in Manchester, Vermont, USA. ORVIS Helios 2 Fly Rod 9' 8wt Tip Flex. It is one of the very lightest rods in swing weight, second only to the SKY G.   It also proved to be extremely well dampened and very smooth to cast, right out to 60 feet. The G-7/8 has the capacity for the S.A. WF-8-F Amplitude Bonefish line and 200 yards of the Hatch 68 lb. Once you get your new rod or outfit, do some casting on the lawn, and if you feel it is not just what you want (and has not been fished), we’ll allow you to return it to us for a full refund, less the shipping charges. I would like to see them a bit larger so that they can clear line tangles more easily. Copyright 2021, The Orvis Company Inc. Virtually gorgeous. Keep in mind that fast action rods are not necessarily stiff rods, as many anglers assume. of 30 lb. The main reason for this was feedback from Key West pros and guides who wanted a rod that can handle a Grand Slam or Tropical Punch line, since many of their clients are not experts at double hauling and these heavier, front loaded lines enable the clients to have the best chance for longer casts in the wind. 17 watchers. A 1 ½ inch fighting butt is used that tapers to a wide base, protected with a rubber cork ring at the bottom. Making an 80-foot cast in saltwater is prospecting. This new Mega Modulus+ graphite fiber is slightly higher in modulus but has a much higher strain rating than what Loomis used on the previous NRX rods. Over the past three years I’ve fished the 8-weight Asquith as my go-to rod for everything from 20-pound rainbows at Argentina’s Jurassic Lake, Atlantic salmon in Labrador, to the saltwater flats in the Caribbean and Florida for bonefish, redfish and snook. Next a layer of “muscle carbon” graphite is wrapped the conventional manner, followed with a final wrap of the infinity tape, but at an opposing 90-degree angle from the first layer, forming an X-pattern. Although the SA Amplitude bonefish taper was the best line on the Asquith and the other top rods, we learned that Steve Rajeff designed the NRX+ with a slightly heavier line, the Mastery Saltwater taper, in mind, which is a half line size heavier than the Amplitude Bonefish taper. Today’s latest graphite fly rods are using lighter higher modulus graphite materials combined with new resin systems like the new nano-resins, as well as different methods of cutting and laying up the graphite layers and better rolling techniques. Find great deals on eBay for orvis 8wt and orvis 9 wt. If you are fishing mostly in close or out to 60 feet, your best mid-priced rod will be the Echo Prime 4pc. The rest are large diameter black chrome snake guides that will pass line and tangles easily. This new resin system, along with a new scrim, results in a lighter but more durable blank. Call us at 406-222-7130, or e-mail us at sta[email protected] and we can discuss your needs and wants. A flat black anodized double uplocking reel seat is used, with two large locking rings that were very easy to grip and tighten. As G. Loomis explains, the new GL8 resin is “self-propagating,” meaning the resin creates its own nano-particles. Accuracy breeds success. D'occasion. The platelets make up a small part of the resin matrix while offering substantial benefits in using less material and maintaining high integrity in linear and hoop strength, with added impact resistance. The Asquith is an absolute joy to cast, and for me it stood out from the other rods in our Challenge the second I got it in my hand. With your support we can continue to give you more Shootouts and head to head comparisons on tackle and equipment in the future. Shop for medium action 8 wt. This rod is an absolute steal at the low price of $189.95. The cork handle is a full wells, with rubber/cork rings at the top and bottom for better durability. 3. The key to this power and smoothness is a utilization of three things: Mega modulus + graphite, GL 8 resin, and a new multi-taper design. Also, if you are looking for an inexpensive back-up 8-weight for a trip, you can’t go wrong with the Aetos. Reply. 2 7/8 oz. For those of you that want to refresh your memory on the rods we did not compare in this Challenge, please refer to our 2018  8-weight Shootout: After casting a number of good mid-priced rods, we decided to report only on the best, the new redesigned Orvis Recon, and a delightful new rod from Echo, called the Prime 4pc. 164,81 EUR. The meat of our 8-Weight challenge is how these rods perform. The wraps are black but the one-coat epoxy coatings were just OK, being a little heavy in spots. Like the Orvis Helios 2 single hand rods, the H2 11’5-weight switch rod has a beautiful smoke blue colored blank with silver trim thread wraps and high-end flexible titanium snake guides. In fly fishing, accuracy is everything. These allow the reader to see the manner in which each rod bends, but more importantly, how it bends compared to the others. This rod seems to track amazingly well at mid-range and certainly has the power to handle these mid-distances with ease. The Helios 3F was much lighter in hand at a swing weight of 9.9 oz. Smooth casting with nice tight loops, giving me good feel and accuracy but not quite up to the level of either the Asquith or NRX+. Will go nicely with my Clearwater 5wt, Helios 2 8wt and Access 10wt. We explain how we try to keep things apples to apples by eliminating variables, the set-up of our casting stations at the different distances, and exactly how we compute swing weight. In fact, of the two Asquith rods we sent back on G.Loomis’ warranty program, both were returned as free repairs, deemed to be factory defects. And how does the new re-designed Recon compare to the original Recon? Orvis Bamboo Fly fishing Rod -8wt 2/1pc 99 , made 1958 by George Reid D'occasion. Les meilleures offres pour Orvis helios 3D 9 ft (environ 2.74 m) 8wt. A short extension butt is used with a rubber/cork end cap for increased durability. The SKY G is an attractive rod, finished in flat gray, with black wraps. We’ll come out with you and offer you some help to fine tune your casting stroke or just help you with the basics. Loomis uses a stack of thin width, very high-quality cork rings that have proven to hold up well with hard use. Steve is not only a great caster and rod designer, he is a great angler. It is very light in hand but has a huge amount of reserve power coming from a fairly stiff butt and mid-section that allows it to handle the longest distances with ease. Buy It Now. Buyer pays return shipping. I found that the Sector performed best at the shorter distances, from 35-60 feet, where you typically fish an 8-weight. Dacron backing; Rod Tube Condition: Used “ Excellent ” Price: US $479.99. The NRX+ series are powerful rods in general but are also dampened better than any of the other rods we’ve found, including the Asquith. 4. Free shipping. Approximately C $614.60 (including shipping) ORVIS Helios 2 Fly Rod 9' 8wt Tip Flex. I love the Prime’s light swing weight, second only to the Douglas SKY G. The Prime’s softer tip gave me great feel and very good accuracy in close. All of which result in rods that are much lighter, smoother and more accurate than anything we have experienced in the past. At the longest distances the 3F just didn’t have the power to get it done as easily as the Asquith or NRX+. Sign up now to receive special offers and news via email, and save $10 on your next purchase of $50 or more. At longer distances it was really about as good as the 3D, but at the two shorter distances, the softer tip on the 3F gave us much more feel and better accuracy. As new condition. James’ Notes: Looking back at the 2016 8-weight shootout, the Orvis Recon tied for 4 th place. Orvis Commits 5% of pre-tax profits to protecting nature. Personalize Your Orvis … We have been impressed with the Helios 3 rods, and there is no question that they are among the best 8-weights. Of course, this will bump up the swing weight somewhat, but it will still be one of the lightest 8-weights. Robert Upshall says: March 18, 2014 at 3:23 pm. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Orvis H2 Helios 2 Tip Flex 8100-4 8wt 10'0" 4 PC Fly Fishing Rod at the best online prices at eBay! “If we are to benefit from the use of our natural resources, we must be willing to act to preserve them.”, – Perk Perkins, Orvis Company Owner & Board Member. Two years ago, the Asquith won our full blown 2018 8-Weight Shootout, replacing the Scott Meridian as the previous 2016 8-Weight winner. Now the lack of overall power is becoming apparent, but it still hits 80 feet easily enough and with decent accuracy. The cork handle is a comfortable full wells Rajeff design that is slightly larger ahead of the handle swell. Features of the Saltwater Helios Fly Rod. The other is the expeditor … The only performance disadvantage is that it has a narrower sweet spot, so anglers will have to apply the power more precisely to benefit from this rod’s full potential. The rest of the gang are also as impressed with the Helios 3 series. The fast action Helios 2 6-weight 9'6" Fly Rod Tip Flex is perfect for fishing in places where you need a little extra reach. The epoxy coating over the guides is excellent. The new rod is a lot more powerful and handles those mid to long distances with ease, tracking well and giving me nice tight loops. The new rings have nylon inserts at the top that give a very positive lock-up. This new line has the S.A. Tropi-Core technology – a stiff coating and stiff core, and their AST plus coating, a slickness additive that aids in shooting (and clearing) line, all perfect for warmer climates. Shop with confidence. Helios 3F and 3D each offer uncompromising purpose. The faster action is about perfect, and surprisingly the feel and accuracy I’m getting is very good, even better than the Orvis Recon. What a nice light feel in my hand, and I’m getting nice tight loops with superb accuracy. … Ray says: October 21, 2013 at 11:26 pm Would love to add this rod to my Orvis collection. 3D is accuracy with power at distance for pinpoint delivery of larger flies. This is a new rod from Douglas that uses their new graphene technology that we saw in their latest SKY G (the winner of our 2020 5-Weight Shootout in the Presentation category). The main reason for that, of course is that 14-time world champion caster Steve Rajeff, is the man behind the designs. Needless to say, the manufacturers don’t want to divulge their secrets, but they were all willing to give us a general idea of what they are doing to produce these terrific new rods that combine amazing power with wonderful feel and finesse. Somewhat like the Helios, there is a 5 ½ inch logo just above the handle with the new larger Orvis logo,  but at least it is in gray rather than white. The epoxy coating on the guides was excellent. Lighter in hand and 20% stronger than any rod ORVIS has ever developed, it transitions energy directly from your brain to the fly and casts with the precision of a laser pointer. Very smooth to cast, with nicely formed loops and very good accuracy. The guide set up starts with two large titanium SIC style stripping guides, followed with the best nickel/titanium snake guides as on the Loomis and Scott rods. We have fished all over the world in both fresh and saltwater for a huge variety of fish, and we’ll be glad to answer all of your questions, to help you choose the perfect rod or outfit. The Orvis Helios 3F, Scott Sector, and Douglas SKY G all perform with excellence up to 60 feet but lack power when casting at the longest distances of 80-100 feet, or when battling a headwind. The new Prime is a very light rod, with a nice soft, quick loading tip. Free shipping. 3F is accuracy with finesse, a dry fly angler's dream. Add to cart . Rod outfit includes: Helios 2 8-weight 11' Fly Rod—Tip Flex; Mirage V in Pewter; Hydros HD Switch WF 8; 200 yds. mike mcvay says: October 22, 2013 at 1:19 am Helios . The Asquith was the first rod to use a radical new design that Shimano calls their Spiral-X technology. Each section is labeled 908, which is handy and makes for easy alignment. The lack of backbone hurts, and makes it hard to achieve the longest distances with any kind of accuracy. In Montana I use the 9 foot #5 for a lot of the dry fly trout fishing I do, along with the 9 foot #7 for fishing streamers. Making a forty-foot cast on the nose of a laid-up tarpon is fishing. Punch in any amount of power you want and the rod responds. These strippers and the snake guides are PVD coated in black. Personalized hand scribing is available on the rail of the reel seat. Of the top rods, only the SKY G was lighter in swing weight. No hook keeper is used. At $795 this rod is a bargain when compared to the other top rods, that are $100-$400 more. Murrell’s Inlet, SC 3. line. The Echo Prime 4pc is the lightest and best mid-priced rod for fishing at short to medium distances, but lacks power at longer ranges. I designed these leaders with very stiff butt and midsections, and a short taper that allows them to turn over extremely well, even in a harsh wind. The Sector has some new innovations, the primary one being Scott’s new Carbon Web Technology, which it is claimed “improves torsional stability and rod durability by encasing the unidirectional fibers in a web of ultra-light multi-directional carbon fiber.” Whatever that is, this seems to work, as this rod is a joy to cast, at short to medium distances, giving me a lot of feel in close as well as good accuracy. That lack of butt and mid-section power is a handicap at the longest distances. Douglas explains that Platelets are like building blocks that are microscopic in size. We have cast all of these rods before, and we could tell by their past casting performance, including their heavier swing weights or stiffer tips, that they didn’t have what it takes to be top contenders. Jesse Rapp says: October 21, 2013 at 11:34 pm Snap Em And Slap Em. There are no other rods in our Challenge that are as smooth, dampen as quickly, or track as well as the new NRX+ rods. It did suffer in the wind a bit and I couldn’t punch the power in like I could with the Asquith or NRX+. Both the Asquith and NRX+ were dramatically better. It’s not the lightest rod and the components are not that great either, but the fast action is just right and gave me pretty good feel and accuracy, especially at the shorter distances. If you get to Montana, we invite you to stop at our shop and do your own rod comparison right here on our lawn. Details about ORVIS Helios 2 Fly Rod 9' 8wt Tip Flex. A short extension butt is used with a wider rubber cork cap that will be comfortable to use when cranking hard on a fish. These rod comparisons and Shootouts take considerable time and effort. All things being equal, cheaper is in this case, may be better, making the NRX+ a very appealing saltwater weapon. Now the lack of butt and mid-section power is apparent and both the Recon and Aetos in the mid-priced category did a better job. 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